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Sen. Murkomen Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the Senate today, Wednesday 8th November, November 8, 2017 SENATE DEBATES Sen. MurkomenThe Controller of Budget Annual National Government Budget Implementation Review Report 2016/2017 FYThe Controller of Budget Annual County Governments Budget Implementation...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am ready to get the answer for Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. I can assure you that I am not resisting. (Laughter)

Sen. Murkomen I will do so in two weeks, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the two questions are similar and they are directed to the same Ministry. So, I request for the same two weeks.

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this one looks more complicated and, so, I am requesting for three weeks.

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have just received the Statement on the Status of Karebe Mining Company Limited. The Senator for Nandi has not had the opportunity to read it. It is a comprehensive Statement November 8, 2017 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Murkomenneed be. I have consulted him and...

Sen. Murkomen Yes, we have. I can issue it tomorrow, but the Statement is there.

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, regarding the Statement request by Sen. Petronila Were on the on-going nurses’ strike, you can see that it is very voluminous. This is no longer an on-going strike because it has been resolved. However, I have the answer to the Statement plus the attachments,...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Statement by Sen. Ledama Olekina, on the alleged use of force and police brutality at the University of Nairobi (UON) is not ready. (Sen. Wetangula spoke off record)

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am not allowed to correct you and so I withdraw whatever I would have said. (Laughter) (Loud consultations) November 8, 2017 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Murkomenhere and he is not ‘resisting’. We are all happy to be here!So, the Statement sought by Sen. Olekina...

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Sen. Murkomen Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, maybe, you did not get me; this Statement is not yet available.

Sen. Murkomen I think another one week would do. The Statement can be ready maybe on Thursday, next week.

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the following Motion:- THAT, Pursuant to Standing Order No. 128, this House resolves to reduce the publication period of the County Allocation of Revenue (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No.9 of 2017) from Seven (7) days to One (Loud consultations)

Sen. Murkomen Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This being a straightforward Motion, I beg to move and request Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to second.

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, pursuant to the Procedural Motion having been accepted, I beg to give notice of the following of Motion:- THAT, Aware that the primary role of the Senate is to protect the interest of counties and their governments as provided for in Article 96 of...

Sen. MurkomenMr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you heard those perverted polemics from the Majority Leader. The problem of appearing to know too much is that you end up looking like you know very little.Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are not here in competition on any issue. I am not interested in...

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Sen. Murkomen The Leader of Majority, can you move the Motion? The Senate Majority Leader (Sen. Murkomen) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, I, therefore, beg to move the Motion in an amended version:- THAT, Aware that the primary role of the Senate is to protect the interest of counties and their...

Sen. Murkomen What is your intervention, Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.?

Sen. Murkomen Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., are you satisfied with that explanation?

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Sen. Murkomen) : Sen. Murkomen) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I still emphasize that we cannot. We should have flexibilities and if the committee finds that there are certain errors that must be addressed, they will not be under constraint to come back tomorrow. If they find that the amendments...

Committee on the County Allocation of Revenue (Amendment) Bill 2017, comprising not more than nine Senators, to undertake the functions of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget, as contemplated under Standing Order 212(3); b) that, the following Senators be appointed to the Committee;

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. was here yesterday to listen to the answer to the question by Sen. Khaniri, he would not be taking us back. Issues of whether it was a new Bill or not were addressed yesterday. Secondly, there is absolutely nothing...

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Sen. MurkomenSen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to sit in this Committee is because he was in the previous Budget Committee. He appreciates how the Committee was working. He is one of the few Senators who served in that Committee that were re-elected.My consideration was also on the ability of a person...

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Sen. Murkomen) : Please, Sen. Ledama, continue with your second Statement. Madam Temporary Speaker, before I go to the second Statement, I know that the Leader of Majority has said that this is the same question; it is not. My question is specific to a Gazette Notice dated 17th March,...

Please, Sen. Ledama, continue with your second Statement. Madam Temporary Speaker, before I go to the second Statement, I know that the Leader of Majority has said that this is the same question; it is not. My question is specific to a Gazette Notice dated 17th March, 2017. I have...

Sen. Murkomen) : I agree with the Senate Majority Leader. Two weeks will suffice, so that we get something comprehensive. Madam Temporary Speaker, I think that two weeks is reasonable for a comprehensive debate. In fact, the one week that was earlier ordered by the Speaker will take part of...

looking forward can be dealt with in two weeks’ time.

Leader of Majority, I thought you were about to say that you can answer both of them, because they are similar. Madam Temporary Speaker, we are trying to avoid a tradition where questions are just answered for the sake of it. When they are handled by committees, the interrogation is...

I agree with the Senate Majority Leader. Two weeks will suffice, so that we get something comprehensive.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I wanted to seek clarification from the Senate Majority Leader but he has clarified the issue I had, which is the urgency of the matter. I listened to my two colleagues from Narok and Samburu counties and I want to state that this is a complex matter....

Hon. Senator, I was expecting something new because I had already ruled on that. Let us allow the Senate Majority Leader to give us a snap answer in a week and a comprehensive answer in two weeks. By doing that, we will not send them back.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I still feel that one week is long.

Then it is already too late because I had ruled on that one. Let us move on. STATUS OF LAND OWNED BY THE ADC IN LAIKIPIA COUNTY November 7, 2017 SENATE DEBATES

Community has occupied since Independence.

Sen. Kinyua, do you have any intervention before we continue? Madam Temporary Speaker, I was born in Mutara Ranch and I can tell you who neighbours the ADC Farm. It is on my extreme north and it is owned by somebody called George Kithuko. We also have Kihika Farm which...

Order! Sen. Kinyua, you are not the Senate Majority Leader. If you want to assist him, you should do so outside this House. Let us listen to the Senate Majority Leader. Madam Temporary Speaker, Sen. Kinyua could be right but he does not have the supporting documents. So, he should...

the one owned by the ADC, was acquired. I know it may have some legal connotations for the same to be taken to court. I appreciate that he is seated on the side of one of the parties mentioned and I do not know whether he is acting as their...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order No.46, I beg to lay the following Statement on the Table:- The Business of the Senate for the week commencing Tuesday, 7th November,

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I request that we issue this Statement the first Thursday upon our return from recess. (Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. consulted loudly) Since he is not listening, you should order as such.

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have a problem with that question because it is anchored on Article 100 of the Constitution. It talks about Parliament enacting legislation to promote representation in Parliament, of Persons With Disability (PWDs) and marginalised groups. I would be comfortable to proceed in the manner...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, that is a good question and was asked many times in the last Parliament. However, I recognise this is a new Parliament which is the 12th Parliament. I propose, just like the question of Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., to try and bring a response the...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, it has never happened in the history of this House, that one Member should be given a copy of the Statement of the Senate Majority Leader on the business of the Senate before it can be read. This is the first time. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to give a Statement on the business of the Senate for the week commencing on Tuesday, 7th November, 2017, pursuant to Standing Order No.46. October 12, 2017 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Murkomenbusiness for the coming week. As Senators may recall in yesterday’s Supplementary...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, Sen. Khaniri requested a Statement on the disbursement of money to the counties but I have not received a Statement from the Treasury. I will do a personal follow up later this afternoon to see how else we can deal with this matter.

Sen. Murkomen On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. We have a problem; double speak and hypocrisy of the highest order. We have been here taking our responsibility seriously. The reason why there is no budget committee is because of the minority. The Minority side wrote a letter to...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, this hypocrisy must be said for what it is. There is a letter at the office of the Speaker that says that the Minority side will not participate in any single committee in this House. That letter has made it difficult for us because we...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I agree that the question raised by my friend, the distinguished Senator of Vihiga County, is important. It is about the funds to the counties. It is a concern of every Senator. It is the reason why we are here. I took that matter seriously...

Sen. Murkomen I am being honest, Mr. Speaker, Sir. When I asked Sen. Nyamunga what had happened to her, she told me that she had to go and an earn points out there for maandamano. (Laughter) October 12, 2017 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Murkomenwe if took the progress of our counties...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am concluding. I agree that maybe it was wrong to say ‘bonga points’. However, she went to earn her political mileage. When someone is limping, it is seen. I saw my colleague limping and she told me that it is part of the struggle....

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, regarding the Statement on the withdrawal of security officers of senior leaders, the answer is as follows---

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, as I said earlier, I love the enthusiasm of the Senator for Narok County. If only he can moderate to follow the Standing Orders, it will be very nice. I promised that I would give a temporary answer by today on the security of the...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I take the security of the former Prime Minister and the former Vice-President seriously. That is why I wanted assurance from the Inspector-General of Police that they are safe even before a written Statement is brought here. We know that they are presidential and deputy...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, the next Statement is extremely serious. It is even more serious than the previous one. The security personnel are working on it. It involves a sensitive matter of two communities who have lived together and are living together. The proper details must be incorporated in...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is the kind of Statement that would have not only been issued by the Ministry but would have also been interrogated by the Committee on National Security and Foreign Relations. In fact, once we have the Committee on National Security and Foreign Relations, it...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, the two statements are very important. Is it possible for you to order that the minority and majority sides when we come back from the recess - should agree and form the Committees so that these issues can be dealt with? With regard to the...

Sen. Murkomen Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I know we are about to complete this important process. I would like to thank the Hon. Senators, particularly from the majority side, who have sat through this process to pass a very important law. I want to assure the nation that this...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to Standing Order Nos. 28 and 29, the Senate do adjourn until Tuesday, 7th November, 2017. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to start by thanking all the Senators who have come and participated in the Senate...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move Notice of the following Motion:- THAT, aware that the country is still in an election cycle, arising out of the requirement for a fresh Presidential Election in October, 2017; further aware that there is need to legislate on and address certain...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the following Motion:- THAT, aware that the country is still in an election cycle, arising out of the requirement for a fresh Presidential Election in October, 2017; further aware that there is need to legislate on and address certain legal lacunas...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move and request the Committee to move with expediency to ensure that we get good laws for the Republic of Kenya. (Question put and agreed to) THE ELECTION LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILL NO.39 OF 2017) Sen. Murkomen Thank you, Mr....

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is a very important matter. I will be very happy to seek a Statement on the same. I am very excited to hear a confirmation regarding the preparation of the former Prime Minister and the former Vice President for the election of 26th October,...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, as I said, I take this matter very seriously. If my colleague wants an answer immediately, I can give it to him now. However, for that answer to have institutional authority and authenticity, it must be in writing. It must come from the Inspector General...

Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provision of Standing Order No. 46, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the House, today, 28th September, 2017:- Business of the senate for the coming week. (Sen. Murkomen laid the document on the Table)

Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motions: ESTABLISHMENT OF SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE ELECTION LAWS, 2017 September 28, 2017 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Murkomenprovisions of Article 81 of the Constitution on general principles for the electoral system; noting that such election-related matters would ordinarily...

Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Speaker, first of all, this is a very serious Statement; it touches on a serious issue both towards the environment and health. Therefore, I request Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to give us three weeks so that we bring a comprehensive Statement. September 28, 2017 SENATE DEBATES...

Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order No.46, I would like to issue a Statement on the business of the Senate for the coming week. Pursuant to Standing Order Nos. 28 and 29, I will, at the appropriate time, and as listed in today’s Order...

Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion:- THAT, aware that the country is still in an election cycle, arising out of the requirement for a fresh Presidential Election in October, 2017; further aware that there is need to legislate on and address certain legal lacunas...

Sen. Murkomenthrowing stones. But let me warn them--- September 28, 2017 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Murkomen Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Senator was in and out of the House. He was not here when the Senator for Kisumu County contributed. I would have had a problem if it was him who...

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Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the Senate, today 26th September, 2017: September 26, 2017 SENATE DEBATES THANKS FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL ADDRESS September 26, 2017 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Murkomenin this country, uphold our Constitution and support our people to reach...

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Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, can you rule Sen. George Khaniri out of order? He is not on the Floor; he has not been given an opportunity and yet he wants to interrupt what I am doing. Take judicial notice of the fact that they had said they would not...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, before I move this Motion, allow me to remind my colleagues from this side of the House that after this business, which I will request that we make brief, we will have important business under Order No.10. It actually concerns our counties and requires 24...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, can I be allowed to proceed as the Clerk works on how we can get the clearer copies? These are photocopying issues.

Sen. Murkomen Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Sen. Sakaja has raised a very valid issue. I requested all the Senators to expeditiously pass this Motion and shorten the debate for us to have the requisite number of Senators to vote. However, the concern raised by the Senator is genuine because...

Sen. Murkomen On a point of order Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am not very conversant with the Standing Orders, but I want to seek a clarification as to why some Members of this august House voted while others did not. I think that we are here on an equal capacity....

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Sen. Murkomen(Sen. Murkomen laid document on the Table)Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wish to lay on the Table of the Senate, The President’s Address on the Opening of the Twelfth Parliament delivered on Tuesday, 12th September, 2017, during the Joint Sitting of Parliament. NOTICE OF MOTION THANKS FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL ADDRESS...

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Sen. Murkomenthe Jubilee Party, we are ready to go for a repeat of the election peacefully.In the Presidential Speech, we were told that there is no vacuum in this country. No matter how much our brothers and sisters on the other side go round saying that we have a caretaker...

Thank you Mr. Speaker, Sir. I wish to second this Motion on the Presidential Speech. The Speech was very good and on point, especially with regard to matters that affect us as a country. As the President said, we conducted peaceful elections on the 8th of August and did not...

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Sen. Murkomen Thank you, Mr. Clerk. First, I congratulate my colleagues for being elected and sworn in. Second, I think we are starting on the right note as Senators, being vigilant of issues that we think may hamper our performance or affect the running of this House in any way....